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To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Fear » Sun Feb 15, 2015 4:53 am

Which do you thing is better double framing or moving sticks at a slower pace and adding more transperent sticks behind.?
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Caleb » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:10 am

Please put Pivot related chatter in Pivot Chat. Moved.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Fear » Sun Feb 15, 2015 5:39 am

isn't this technically a debate.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Caleb » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:35 am

No. It belongs in Pivot Chat. The debate area is about serious topics, such as religion or political stuff. Generally, anything Pivot related remains within the Pivot section of the forum, unless it's something huge.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Waffles Mgee » Sun Feb 15, 2015 6:36 am

Never double frame. To do true slowmotion you move stuff a quarter, maybe even less, as fast. Add an effect like a big white stick with like 10% opacity to increase the effect of slow motion. To do fast stuff, do some motion blur as you said. Or increase the spacing and better your movements to accomodate it.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby SIFTER » Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:17 am

It really depends on the situation. If you want something slower than a pixel per frame, double frame. If you want to emphasize on something double frame. If you want to idle, double frame as well. Otherwise, don't.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Waffles Mgee » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:27 am

Idling doesn't need double-framing. If it's a case of a stick standing still, then move stuff extremely slightly once every five, six or so frames. Less the more active he is. When he's full-on active, it's about making the origin point go around in a circle and have everything flowing with it.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Lord » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:58 am

I hear in most situations double framing shouldn't be used.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby RetiredBATS » Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:04 am

but i love doubleframing (cry

check out Doddsy animations. In my personal opinion if you use any kind of thing in your animation and it looks good - use it.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Horsie » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:03 am

I always use double frames in my animations, depends on moment, it's nice way to add amount of power if needed
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Gary » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:36 am

I dont think people should use double framing unless they're animating at above 21 FPS.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Waffles Mgee » Sun Feb 15, 2015 12:46 pm

RetiredBATS wrote:but i love doubleframing (cry

check out Doddsy animations. In my personal opinion if you use any kind of thing in your animation and it looks good - use it.


If double framing can look good in scenes, then actual slowmo is way better. It's better than doubleframing. And it means you have to put effort in instead of just inserting a frame after every frame.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Franklin » Sun Feb 15, 2015 2:05 pm

I usually only double frame if it is a movement that still needs to be slowed down even at one pixel per frame, like an idle stance. Otherwise, for slow motion, you should probably just add inbetweens.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby socks » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:21 pm

even top animation studios use double framing, whether the media form doesn't matter.
Double framing is heavily useful. But incredibly poorly executed double framing is very awful.
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Re: To double frame, or not double frame?

Postby Cressel » Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:35 pm

I double frame everything, it's just such an easy way to add emphasis to a movement that wouldn't be as heavy looking otherwise.

In the example you gave double framing is a terrible choice though. If you want to slow movements down then do so by making the animation more smooth, double framed slowmo isn't good.
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