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Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:55 am
by Phazon
I'm talking the animator who will be held up with the likes of Jon and Bert when it comes to pivot in the future. Who's name will crop up due to their innovation and quality within their animation just as Jon and Bert did?

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 7:56 am
by MCToast
No one.

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:04 am
by SIFTER
My vote goes for Jojishi. He's the most famous among all of us plus his skills are amazing.

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:25 am
by Mitch
MCToast wrote:No one.

Pretty much man, this is true because pivot animators have gone past the "peak" of growing with pivot, and we're on the slow and steady now as opposed to climbing the steep slope getting to know the ropes.

Part of what makes names like "Jon" and "Bert" so revered within this community is the fact that these guys weren't a part of this modern DD where all this terminology was floating around and the entire program has been properly fleshed out (and yes you can argue that things like "easing" are just a general animation thing, but there is a lot of pivot exclusive shit, pivot also gives it's own context to a lot of previously existing animation concepts because it's pivot)

So basically people like Jon and Bert not only had to come to terms with the existence of "barriers", but they also had to break them down. And in doing this they basically were the ones that said "Hey, this program can actually be used for a hell of a lot more than doing a 2 frame loop of a default jacking his extra dick segment off)

So then more animators followed them and chizzled away at what we now kinda know as the "pivot meta."

I'm not gonna pull the whole "OH FUCKING THINGS WERE SO MUCH BETTER RIP 2007 DAYS ;_;7", because I don't feel like that at all. I mean, lets face it, 70 percent of the enjoyment of pivot comes the end result as opposed to actually doing your head in moving the dots. So I really like the fact that people these days can just jump on DD and have a bunch of dudes with orange names tell them exactly what they need to do. No the modern DD does not "baby" anyone. However In contrast to what I said about Jon and Bert, the modern pivot community is just about breaking down the barriers and getting better as opposed to having to find the barriers yourself like Jon, Bert ect.

This kinda ties in with how I feel about the ranking system, I really hate all the comments by beginnerfag dumb asses who say shit like "I ANIMATE ONLY FOR FUN NOT RANKS." The ranks are what makes the pivot community fun, because like I said its the mostly the result of an animation that makes pivot enjoyable, not the work itself. And all the ranking system does is challenge you to make your results better, faster.

Anyway I just went off on a huge fucking tangent but yeah you get it.

If I were to ignore everything I just said and pivot is ACTUALLY still kicking in 5-7 years time, I like to think that all the current Veterans and Elites will be remembered.

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:28 am
by Cowboy Memebop
although people make really good shit now i don't think they'll be remembered as well as the people who made it big first

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:32 am
by kellawgs
McToast is the one of the few that seem to be doing the next big push of the limits.

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Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:57 am
by Extra
it will be me

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:06 pm
by Chris
I'm prob the next Nutcracker. his style seems to be all I can do these days

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Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:07 pm
by Echo
Probably me cuz I do stuff... also Caleb, Bombastic and that guy could make it too but I think my animations include so much running that I am going to be the one ;)

Am I right guys?

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 2:18 pm
by Chris
*Sniff*... *cough*...

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 4:20 pm
by MCToast
kellawgs wrote:McToast is the one of the few that seem to be doing the next big push of the limits.


*blush*

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 8:04 pm
by Behemoth
Although I don't think there is going to be the "next big thing", the most we've gotten so far was Jojishi and HBomb. They had some popularity amongst what was left in the pivot community on YouTube. I've heard their name popping up now and then on their. But in general, I don't think we'll have a next big thing for a long time.

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:00 pm
by Mitch
kellawgs wrote:Image

tfw most of this was made in pivot 2. All those separate sticks man.

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:10 pm
by kellawgs
Behemoth wrote:Although I don't think there is going to be the "next big thing", the most we've gotten so far was Jojishi and HBomb. They had some popularity amongst what was left in the pivot community on YouTube. I've heard their name popping up now and then on their. But in general, I don't think we'll have a next big thing for a long time.


Jojishi and H Bomb shouldn't be mentioned when we've got niggers like Mctoast. Jojishi is definitely close to being up there as far as pushing boundaries goes, H Bomb seems a lot closer to casual and average pivoting, but McToast's shit is just mind blowing at times.

@Mitch- tfw

Anyway, I wouldn't call Bert quite as groundbreaking, but Jon is definitely some good shit. Even today his shit oozes with style and highly entertaining plot progression. In fact, Firecracker is really up there aswell. He may not be pushing the boundaries but he's doing the absolute best he could with the current ones, like damn. Firecracker has, to me, always been inspirational for the same reasons Jon still is.

Re: Who is the "next big thing?"

PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 11:20 pm
by Mitch
Yeah to kinda rephrase what I meant before, the ones that get remembered are the people who just do something new because thats kinda what i meant by breaking down a barrier. Like Toast's perspective emphasized 3D or Crackers style in general.