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Where are you trying to go?

Postby Eli2814 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 2:26 pm

I've been wondering for the longest if people on here were doing pivot for the heck of it, or if some really were trying to do animation as a career to some capacity. Cuz even some of the best pivoters I've seen end up moving on to do things other than animation. It's just something that's been on the brain that would be cool to know about you guys (cheesygrin
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Caleb » Fri Apr 03, 2015 4:59 pm

Animation will be in my first year of art academy at least, if I decide to go for it I could major in it. I'm not sure about the animation career world though, it's p shitty pay and a lot of hard work. It'd probably be easier to just do some other job and have animation as a hobby.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Franklin » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:28 pm

I've thought about going into 3D animation as a career, but I'm much more likely to try to go into a STEM job and keep animation as a hobby.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Gary » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:32 pm

I'm not that interested in doing animation for a living. Although, if I fail as a Music Teacher or Instruction, that'll definitely be my backup plan.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Josh » Fri Apr 03, 2015 7:38 pm

When I first started animation I intended to continue it as a career, but over time I've got bored of it. Now it's more of an interest that I rarely do.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Jojishi » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:17 pm

I intend to do it as a career. Only thing that scares me off is the pay and the long hours. I'd at least like to give it a go though just to get an experience of doing it professionally. If I don't like it then I'll always do it as a hobby and have my personal projects to work on. That's my plan anyway.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Eli2814 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:28 pm

Jojishi wrote:Only thing that scares me off is the pay and the long hours.


How low is the pay? I've never looked into that kind of thing
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Jojishi » Fri Apr 03, 2015 10:37 pm

Eli2814 wrote:
Jojishi wrote:Only thing that scares me off is the pay and the long hours.


How low is the pay? I've never looked into that kind of thing

It's reasonable; roughly $60 k starting pay. But it's not much for the amount of work put in, which is typically 12 hour days, 6 days a week. If there's ever crunch time, which seems to be somewhere around 20% to 75% of the time (depending on how bad management is where you work) it can be 7 days a week with 14 hour days. Fortunately you get long holidays (about 1-2 months each year).

I'm sure the two hardest positions for this reason are animation as well as game development. The visual effects, animation, games industries in particular are extremely competitive, so they get a lot of young people who will work for peanuts in comparison to the amount of work they do. In truth, people doing this work should be getting paid almost double what they make.

Due to a high turn-over rate and lay-offs, if you do make it, you can make loads of money as a lead animator or director of animation. That's when you're looking at $100 k and the work's easier. The first year or two is always the hardest.

Now I don't actually work in the industry so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I have researched extensively on the topic.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Caleb » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:04 am

Jojishi wrote:
Eli2814 wrote:
Jojishi wrote:Only thing that scares me off is the pay and the long hours.


How low is the pay? I've never looked into that kind of thing

It's reasonable; roughly $60 k starting pay. But it's not much for the amount of work put in, which is typically 12 hour days, 6 days a week. If there's ever crunch time, which seems to be somewhere around 20% to 75% of the time (depending on how bad management is where you work) it can be 7 days a week with 14 hour days. Fortunately you get long holidays (about 1-2 months each year).

I'm sure the two hardest positions for this reason are animation as well as game development. The visual effects, animation, games industries in particular are extremely competitive, so they get a lot of young people who will work for peanuts in comparison to the amount of work they do. In truth, people doing this work should be getting paid almost double what they make.

Due to a high turn-over rate and lay-offs, if you do make it, you can make loads of money as a lead animator or director of animation. That's when you're looking at $100 k and the work's easier. The first year or two is always the hardest.

Now I don't actually work in the industry so take what I say with a grain of salt, but I have researched extensively on the topic.

Also you get payed per job (or sometimes even just hired for 1 job), so sometimes you won't be getting any of the jobs you apply for and you'll be stuck with no income for the time being. This one's probably pretty obvious, but still something noteworthy.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Lord » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:38 am

I just started Pivot a few years back because it made me happy...

now though? I probably could apply what I'm learning in animation to game development and stuff down that line in what I want to do in the future. But hey, what do I know? I'm only 14, nearly 15, still a while yet to go there, so maybe I shouldn't think about it.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Jon » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:10 am

I did it because I enjoyed it and loved seeing myself progress
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby Coweetie » Sat Apr 04, 2015 5:31 am

I animate because I love it, it makes me feel gud (cheesygrin+
Leaving a mark on earth and in people's mind/heart by animating,telling stories or ideas would be the greatest achievement for me.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby SIFTER » Sat Apr 04, 2015 6:37 am

I'd like to major in English to be a translator or an English teacher or get any decent job then see if I can reach a certain level in animation that'd let people commission me.
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby salami » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:51 pm

I want to open a restaurant. I like anime but I don't think I would be good enough to do it professionally. Maybe an anime themed restaurant. (cheesygrin
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Re: Where are you trying to go?

Postby James » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:43 pm

i want to become an electrician
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