Alca wrote:I just think it's still a sad thing to abort your child though
Jojishi wrote:If anyone is not mature enough to deal with the possibility of having a baby, maybe they shouldn't have sex in the first place.
Jojishi wrote:If anyone is not mature enough to deal with the possibility of having a baby, maybe they shouldn't have sex in the first place. It is sort of the sole purpose of sex, to reproduce.
Daniël wrote:I'll regret getting into this, but fuck it.
Skype, I respect you, but the whole deal about the signature; just stop playing ignorant and act like referring to an unborn child as a glorified clump that should be pulled out with a coat-hanger isn't controversial or edgy. I honestly don't care that it is and I thought it was pretty funny in a blunt way, but playing it off like it isn't so seems kind of whack. And it's way below you to start pulling things into it like his signature to prove your point, especially because it doesn't really have any goddamn relevance.
It's also not really a cool thing to call out on people for continuing a discussion when you're doing the same thing at that exact moment.
GTSYankee wrote:Skype wrote:
Your "second opinion" makes even less sense. It is in fact pointless. Parental acknowledgement of what? That the child is pregnant? Regardless of what hasty decisions you think a pregnant, hormonal, 15 year old would make- it is her body to decide whether she wants to keep a child or not.
I very much understand it is her decision to make. That wasn't what I was debating. Are you saying it would hurt to let the parents know she was pregnant? Would it be adverse for the parents to give some insight on a tough decision to help the child? No. Not at all. This complete aversion to parental guidance is odd to me. Yes, parents don't always know what's best, especially if the teenager grew up in a rough home. Again, some insight doesn't hurt. So, no, it's not entirely pointless. But, I still respect your opinion.
Aborting a child without telling the biological father is a different matter entirely.
No, I don't believe it is. It would be his child, but it would also be the parent's grandchild. Regardless of what position of importance the grandchild holds in the grand scheme of things, it's still important. Plus, this is the Abortion debate topic. Where else would it be relevant?
Quite frankly I don't see an issue with a mother aborting a child without the bio-fathers consent.
Alca wrote:If you have to wait 16 weeks to abort your child you deserve to be sterilized. Anyone who would be stupid enough to wait that long doesn't deserve a child in the first place. You'd have to be completely retarded to think that there's nothing wrong with waiting that long.
Quite frankly I don't see an issue with a mother aborting a child without the bio-fathers consent.
I wonder what would happen if you ever had a child with someone (As unlikely as that may be.) I think you'd have a different opinion if your child was just erased without your consent. Who cares if it's the woman body? It takes two people to create a child. The father deserves some say in the matter.
But that's probably enough. I really don't mean any disrespect to you Skype, but it's somewhat difficult to argue with someone who has more teeth than he does braincells.
Skype wrote:
Quite frankly I don't see an issue with a mother aborting a child without the bio-fathers consent.
skype wrote:you have absolutely no idea what goes through a womans head during conception. 16 weeks is nothing in terms of a time frame when it comes to deciding whether you want to change your life radically and permanently. You'd have to be completely retarded to think that that's an easy decision.
Quite frankly I don't see an issue with a mother aborting a child without the bio-fathers consent.
There are many different circumstances in which a child can be conceived. A loving couple, planning to have a child, and the woman gets pregnant and goes and has an abortion behind baby-dads back. Yeah, there's a problem there. I know that.
Don't worry, I have leather skin. Besides, your bite is comparable to that of a 16 week old foetus.
Alca wrote:skype wrote:you have absolutely no idea what goes through a womans head during conception. 16 weeks is nothing in terms of a time frame when it comes to deciding whether you want to change your life radically and permanently. You'd have to be completely retarded to think that that's an easy decision.
You've repeated this point a dozen times. No, I don't know what goes through a woman's head during contraception. Nor does most of the male population; it's probably something that is rather difficult to express. Of course it's not an easy decision, but at 16 weeks the baby begins to resemble what you'd start to consider a human being.
Did I ever say it was an easy decision? I don't remember doing so. Please don't twist my words. I merely stated 16 weeks should be more than enough; even if I'm unable to experience child birth or empathize, 16 weeks is too long no matter how you look at it.
As I said quite a while ago, I believe it's a lot less of a problem when done early. But at 16 weeks it's a bit much more than a 'glorified clump of cells'.
Quite frankly I don't see an issue with a mother aborting a child without the bio-fathers consent.There are many different circumstances in which a child can be conceived. A loving couple, planning to have a child, and the woman gets pregnant and goes and has an abortion behind baby-dads back. Yeah, there's a problem there. I know that.
You should really make your points more clear. Simply stating you don't see an issue with a mother aborting her child without the bio-fathers consent is too general. You never specified anything about one-night stands. Though I do think that a woman who gets pregnant through a one night stand shouldn't have to keep the child; it's unlikely that the father would care much for it in the first place. I did actually change my opinion because I can see why it's a bad idea. However I do still see an issue if in a close, loving relationship the woman has an abortion without even considering the father's feelings.
Don't worry, I have leather skin. Besides, your bite is comparable to that of a 16 week old foetus.
I know you feel the need to get the last word in. Probably a result of some sort of superiority complex no doubt, but you should probably drop it.
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