Thank you all alot for your help. I was sitting around, reading alot of stuff, sorting, re-searching and finding information.
Now i got the chronological order of pivot's and stykz's as well as PA's, DD's and stykz.net history bundled in one list (the most important things by now)
I would like to thank you by showing it to you, you may be interested in it also. If you have any thing you want to be added, just post it.
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Timeline of Pivot's, Stykz and community history
2003/2004
Peter Bone invents Pivot
The reason for Peter Bone to create a gif-program was that his other gif-program had expired, the second reason was to make one for his younger brother. Back then, Peter was age 24, his brother Dave was around 17.
Peter Bone did not intend to make the Program well-known, neither did he make it for any profit.
Sources: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pivot_Stic ... geschichte (german,the year doesn't appear on the english wiki somehow)
Peter's age seen on his profile: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=91
Dave's age (his brother) seen on a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S9ZUm9 ... iOB__Rzmpg
August 2004
Peter creates the Pivot MSN Group.
The Group gets thousands of Users, getting more people every day.
Source: http://www.pivotanimation.org/forum/vie ... ?f=33&t=17
September 2004
The MSN Group got closed
The MSN Group gets attacked by spammers, posting thousands of tiny images, which caused a shutdown of the Group by MSN. MSN disabled the group.
Source: http://www.pivotanimation.org/forum/vie ... ?f=33&t=17
November 2004
Adam creates Darkdemon.org
Adam created the DarkDemon domain in late 2005(?), basing it off of his own internet persona (his forum username was originally DarkDemon), the domain housed a forum extension that was managed by Bert. Adam later created a portal that became the main site. Over time the forum became the main focus and the portal faded into the background before being shutdown.
Source of creation Date of Darkdemon: https://web.archive.org/web/20060614180 ... boutus.php
Further information's source: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=803&start=30#p24198
Spring 2005
The reactivation of the MSN Group
Del/Michael reactivates the disabled MSN group, not intentionally for pivot but for his own purpose.
Masses of people join again, saying how nice it was to see the site back. The MSN Group was blooming again, old member re-joined and Peter, along with some others, explained to Del/Michael what the group was about.
They started to add Ranks and other ideas, and made the group even better.
Source: http://www.pivotanimation.org/forum/vie ... ?f=33&t=17
within 2005, Peter Bone releases Pivot 3 for the MSN Group. He originally told them not to share it with others, since it was a Beta version. But the fire wasn't stoppable, Pivot 3 soon was to be found on many other upload-sites.
Summer 2007
Ken (stykzman) creates Stykz
The original Idea of Stykz was to make a development out of the Pivot's idea. At this time, Peter Bone didn't develop Pivot any further. Ken started to make the Program based on PIvot's static segments idea, adding a bunch of other helpful features to it, which were based on user's ideas.
Stykz had a good time, the stykzforum was full of motivated animators and users who were reporting bugs, posting ideas for further versions.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stykz#Development
February 2008
MSN Grous announced the closure of MSN Groups
Bunneh Wabbit imports the Group to pivotanimation.tk
In October 2008, Microsoft announced the MSN Groups Service would close down on February 21, 2009. Users would still be able to retain their information even with the closure.
Bunneh Wabbit founded the site pivotanimation.tk, where the community continued.
Source: http://www.pivotanimation.org/forum/vie ... ?f=33&t=17
Source MSN shutdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSN_Groups
Source of Bunneh: http://www.pivotanimation.org/forum/vie ... lit=Bunneh
November 2010
Stykz becomes part of Darkdemon.org
Darkdemon.org decided to make a partnership with stykz, since the stykz-community arose fast and seemed to be the replacement of pivot.
The site got an own section for stykz, which was not to be ranked.
Source: http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... rship.html
March 2011
Adam retires
After a long and successful leadership, Adam decided to retire as webmaster of Darkdemon.org. He tried to find a good replacement for him, someone who could lead such a big forum like this.
Soon, a User named Molilla became the new webmaster.
Source: http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... aster.html
July 2012
last post of stykzman
All of a sudden, Ken/stykzman was nowhere to be found anymore. He did not announce any retirement or break from developing stykz, everyone was just waiting for him to get back.
His last post did not show any intention to leave stykz or the community.
Link: http://stykz.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f ... 009#p53009
January 2013
Peter Bone invents Pivot 4
After years passed, Peter Bone decided to come back, making a new version of pivot. The animators were glad to see him revolutionizing the entire program. Peter took suggestions of users and added them to the new version of Pivot. since then, Pivot 3, which was a Beta version, was no longer available on his site.
Source: http://www.pivotanimation.org/forum/vie ... =49&t=7639
April 2013
the stykz part of Darkdemon.org got removed due to inactivity
A few people still were using Stykz, but since the disappearance of the developer it basically was dead already. Darkdemon.org decided to remove the extra-section for stykz and merged it with the other program section.
Source: http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... anges.html
May 2013
Mollila retires
After good 2 years of leading the site, mollila retires as webmaster, giving it away to another one. He did not intend to let the site down, he simply found out that it would take alot of more time to successful lead the site, even though he did his best. So he searched for an interested buyer.
In May 2013, he announced the change of webmasters- a User named Darkadmin got the ownership. This changed DD in a whole new level.
Source:
http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... owner.html
http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... apple.html
In May 2013, Darkadmin migrates darkdemon.org with animator.net
The new owner, Darkadmin, migrated the whole forum with a domain called animator.net. Just as migrations are, some old posts got lost, as well as causing little trouble with User's ranks or similar.
The Darkdemon's new name therefore was animator.net.
Source: http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... r-net.html
October 2013
Since animator.net was based on pivot animations, Krusty created ArtAngle which is a site for artists. Lots of the staff migrated over, causing animator.net to make bigger staff changes.
Source: http://artangle.net/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=12
In November 2013 , Raymond became the new Admin of animator.net.
Source: http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... rator.html
In December 2013 ,the staff on animator.net got changed again.
Source: http://www.animator.net/forum/announcem ... group.html
April 2014
Thedarkdemon.com were created
The webmaster of animator.net, DarkAdmin, did let down the entire community, leaving the community in the dark. No one really knew if the webmaster disappeared or not. The current staff tried to contact him in many ways, which seemed to be either unread or ignored.
As this continued month by month, parts of the staff did not longer wanted to wait for him to appear again. Juke created thedarkdemon.org, along with others of the animator.net staff.
animator.net got spammed by people, trying to get others to thedarkdemon.com or simply trying to get DarkAdmin to post something.
Darkadmin responded with bans, downgrading staff member and normal member.
Some time later, DarkAdmin seemed not to even delete spam posts anymore, deactivated the possibility to edit own Threads due to the trouble, and also either turned off the search function or just left it there broken.
Currently, animator.net seems to be abandoned of DarkAdmin, leaving the community or newly joining users in a kind of broken forum.
Source: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=22
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